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what appeared in the latest edge science

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published by the sse there's a book

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advertisement in there on kundalini by

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gopi krishna

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i can hardly believe this book was

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advertised there so i because that book

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has meant a lot to me over the years

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then i in walking around the bookstores

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recently i noticed

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that there's an incredible amount of

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literature appearing

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in the holistic areas in the alternative

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medicine

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and in general on wellness having to do

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with kundalini

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so i thought it might be an interesting

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topic to bring into here

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even though i see it overlaps with some

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of the other talks

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now my own involvement in these

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interesting fields

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began so part of my talk is kind of a

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summary and a little bit of an odyssey

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but my interest began really in 1970

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when i became really aware of sci

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phenomenon

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dreams and also kundalini so i'll be

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focusing on this talk on

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mainly kundalini in a hot might overlap

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with some of the other

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dreams and it's high material

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what is kundalini many of you know and

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some of you don't

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it's a sanskrit word that really means

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coiled

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something compressed like a spring and

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it's generally thought of in the model

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from the ancient yoga traditions which

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goes back to the hindus valley

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as something that lies dormant at the

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base of the spine

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so it's really a latent energy in their

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model and this can actually be activated

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or awakened as their term

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and when this energy which then becomes

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kind of a flow of energy

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turned prana surges up the spine

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and energizes several areas of the spine

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which are identified in the literature

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defined as wheels or chakras and the

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ultimate goal is to

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activate and balance all these various

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chakras

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including up to at least seven or more

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and in the process of this

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is filtered into the entire yoga

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literature you will find

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this model and chakras and kundalini

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in almost every yogurt literature that

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now there's a systematic process

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involved here in most of the traditions

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that these chakras are energized in a

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systematic manner

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and by energizing i mean the concept is

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that they're like vertices of energy

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get ducted into these various body parts

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and they energize that area of the body

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or a center in the brain in the forehead

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in the pineal gland area so there's this

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that requires the idea of energizing

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so the prana as it flows through the

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body and then goes through the top of

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is envisioned to also be re-energized in

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the cosmos in the universe

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and comes back into the body to recycle

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if necessary to achieve this balancing a

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central feature here is the connection

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to the cerebral spinal system and the

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involving the concept

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of vortices circulating high energy

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processes which in some literature is

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of looking at kundalini that i like to

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version which assumes that there's a

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where there's a unity or a balance being

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there's a little bit of union psychology

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which i see in the literature as well

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referring to jung on some of these

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processes the other way of looking at

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cosmology

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the hindu version but only looking at

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the physiology the phenomenology

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and this is really what i'm going to

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take a look at here because i wasn't

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particularly interested

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in the cosmic journey as i was in trying

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to understand

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what is the physiology going on now here

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are some brief examples

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of how people who have spontaneous

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and also react to what's called a

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kundalini awakening

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those that go through a process of

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learning and teaching

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from yogas don't really have the

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dramatic

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surge it's balanced so you don't get

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this jolt of energy

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or you know if it happens it's down very

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it's a problem that rises to people like

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in this culture that never heard of the

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term before

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and all of a sudden they're thrusted in

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to an amazing

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of his feelings of energy in their own

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that can actually include all these

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sensations the feeling of a partial

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electric field

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intense light head pressures vibrations

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list of things that happen spontaneously

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to people let me wonder what's going on

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they go to the psychiatrist and begin to

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give them pills when it's really part of

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a kundalini

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awakening process to balance their

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entire body

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from the point of the wellness and unity

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now here's some typical words you can

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look at i'm not going to read them too

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those that have no idea what kundalini

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meant later on learn about it

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do talk about tingling wrestling high

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pitched noises this concludes male

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scientists

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academic people uh it usually leads into

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something like precognitive experiences

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or dreams or healing the bottom one

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is this female artist that talks about

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vibrations in the head

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tight band all kinds of energy up and

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literature

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can see where it's like tingling

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the backbone there's something sticking

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shaman then sees this light entering his

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which seems to open up her perspective

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into the future precognition

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i've been through one of these

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experiences having no idea what was

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but i was alerted although i didn't

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catch the alerting until afterwards

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and i was alerted through dreams being

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flooded by

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tsunamis being charged with electricity

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that felt like i was being electrocuted

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and there's no way i could anticipate

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what this all meant

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the biggest significant thing in my life

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was the feeling of being electrocuted

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the feeling having electrical tornadoes

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surge up and down me

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my brain seemed to be filled with tiny

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electrical tornadoes

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from a woman that described the

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identical situation so i've been working

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lightning strike almost immediately

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and have no idea what's going on they

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which what i think happening and just

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open up the avenues in the brain

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to be conduits to this kundalini energy

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as a result of this experience this took

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me a 90 degree turn

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from being an aerospace engineer and

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and to say hey what's going on here so i

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conscious state and dream state i looked

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into healing i joined healing groups

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i found that even my own self whenever i

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was really sick i could experience

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accelerated healing by re re-imagining

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and allowing that energy to flow through

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me and it really felt

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really quite energetic so it was kind of

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a healing process that was going on

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and i kind of saw it as kind of a

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balance as kind of a some kind of harm

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heart my little brain heart system

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because i could feel his vibrations

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and i see i really now think that the

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vibrations in the blood vessels and the

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eeg patterns become synchronized

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and this somehow helps focus and direct

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whatever it is you need to direct

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whether it's healing or psi phenomenon

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when i became involved in sri i did

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manage to do one experiment uh while i'm

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still with the project before i was told

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not to do this managers don't do this

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kind of stuff

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so what i did here was take a look at

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a the possibility of applying kundalini

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sensations

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to improving the accuracy of rv data

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this was a submarine experiment we did

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earlier on in 1977

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there were six target pictures in the

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sub it was my task to describe

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uh which one of the three were being

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double blind nobody's opening them up to

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so this was my first impression i was

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able to relax real quickly i'd never

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done this before

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but i assumed that this harmonizing

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process that i felt in my brain

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had a connection with tuning in to psi

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so i was able to induce that feeling

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those vibrations

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and relaxed very easily because there's

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a very relaxing process

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stress reduction is very good just from

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a health wellness point of view

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and the first impressions bright gold

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coils

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curvy lines it looks like typical of the

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middle building date and it is

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then the woman shows up a golden-haired

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woman

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and a face of a april gorilla

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several days later i was had to choose

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which of the six pictures were the

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target

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there was no choice there was a

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one-haired woman facing a gorilla

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so the experiment worked there were

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other projects too

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that i was involved in i'll skip over

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real quickly

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and i was able to integrate both the

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conscious state side remote viewing

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with the dream state and in this case

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the person that put together the target

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pool made an error

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and had pictures on the back side in a

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dream state i was able to actually dream

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that backside picture quite accurately

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and i didn't know that until much later

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there was a third picture in this case i

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went to a dream

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the pattern in the end of the dream

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matched only this one so it was a hit

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i learned from this experiment that

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where is the target

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i finally realized that it's not where

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we think it is that it is some

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representative space

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so i begin to think in terms of

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holography and that this

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target itself is being accessed to the

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mind into some kind of holographic

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representation of reality

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i put that to the test with precognition

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and it started looking at the future

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but nobody knows the target is not even

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existing yet

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and i'm going to have one example of

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that because i was able to induce the

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sensations that i felt

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were conducive to this this frequency

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setting

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harmony uh for lack of a better term

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that occurred

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as i was sitting there concentrating on

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a task and that was this

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on the night of january the 27th

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decided to have a dream about the most

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significant event for the next week

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i was able to induce the feeling i went

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to sleep

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late that morning i had these two very

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brief images you can see them right here

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thin banner turbulence high velocity

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streaks

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an airplane pops out of one of the

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streaks

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and then the dream presents a still i'm

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not looking at a still photograph in a

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dream

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and a spotlight comes on and this is the

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way some of my dreams work

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they spotlight the area and it

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eliminates

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that spot and i could see when it

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eliminated that there was a crack

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at the window at the wing junction and

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the dream

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okay five days later is the tragic

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situation with the shuttle

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when it burned up in reentry over texas

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so that sketch of streaks in the sky

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matches that traumatic incident

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later when i got ground truth on what

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really caused the accident

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that sketch that still photograph in a

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dream does correlate very nicely to the

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eventual analysis and this is five days

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before

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the tragedy occurred another thing i did

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was just

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try to see whether or not through the

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dream state

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insight could be provided into the

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process what are my main interests

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so over time i was able to develop

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a model that involved hexagons hexagons

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showed up

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in two-dimensional three-dimensional

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forms and they existed until i would

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seconds after i woke up there's

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something about hexagons so you can

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imagine my excitement

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when i read stuart hammerhoff's work

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about noticing the hexagonal patterns

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in microtubules and his model along with

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pantos

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on how these microtubules throughout the

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brain

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actually form some kind of quantum

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computing mechanism

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this could be pure chance but you never

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know it's kind of interesting

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so where did i get to after all these

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years from 1970

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uh i think from the point of view of the

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psi

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consciousness connection that it is

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analogous to holograms

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maybe that's my laser background showing

404
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maybe i'm biased there

405
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but it sure seems holographic to me and

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that the psi

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process is a link whatever that is that

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allows us to connect

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with that hologram that's out there and

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space somewhere

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and wherever it is i call it an

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information domain i don't like to think

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in terms of alternative universes or

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whatever

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some of the quantum physicists here do

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it just is it just is there

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and it represents 3d reality you and i

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are in it we have a holographic body

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embedded in that

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i think the previous speaker told about

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it as well about it i use the term

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holographic body

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it has a projection feature that's where

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precognition can come from

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and we can look into the future as a

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projection

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as a virtual possibility but not as an

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absolute thing

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as probabilities involved and this is

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why i don't like to go

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too much further into the future than a

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few weeks because in my view the

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probability

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really falls off so stick with the dirt

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term and you'll be more likely to be

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correct

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and that intentions can alter this you

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heard that from the healing talk earlier

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i see this connected to the pk work

440
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and affecting some kind of form

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structure on that hologram

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that then comes back into this reality

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moving from point a to point b

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like in polar guys phenomena in terms of

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the kundalini

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whatever the term you want to use

447
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bioenergy kundalini like energy

448
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uh non-local energy is being used now by

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some of the yoga

450
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practitioners that it links with side

451
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consciousness in some way

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but the main thing for you and i is that

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it really does

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enhance wellness and creativity it

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really does it's

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wonderful the energy that you feel

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really is

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truly uh constructive that has a role in

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survival

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i think you can see that and i think

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also evolution but i'm not quite sure

462
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how it links to the dna

463
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i really do believe there's an electric

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magnetic field component

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and that interacts with the quantum

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probably at very small

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microscopic levels in the brain that can

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be measured

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and also i think clears we can find on

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this from

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looking at processes energy work

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magnetoencephalograms should be able to

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point out where these fine-grained

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electric tornadoes are that might be

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creating noise-free environments within

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the brain

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that can help these other processes

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become effective

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thank you dale questions coming down

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try to stay close to the mic this time

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okay dale

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um i'm wondering if uh what

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i assume is a holographic field

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apparently that's what you you're you're

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describing that's my closest analogy

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uh do you see any relationship between

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that and edgar casey's

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akashic records not really it's a matter

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of how you store information

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years ago you carved things in in rocks

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uh the cave walls uh paintings uh the

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concert records has the concept of a

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library

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that you can access pulling out books

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okay it's information storage

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it's our modern way of looking how this

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esoteric information which i don't think

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is that esoteric

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is actually recorded so we use laser

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holography now

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uh ten years from now we might change

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hi uh excuse me dr thomas beck from

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seattle uh washington

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i'm a psychologist and uh my uh partner

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and i have worked uh

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fairly extensively with individuals

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having kundalini awakenings

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that have been triggered by a wide range

509
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of different things um

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and you're talking about the creativity

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uh that really comes to the fore

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uh it's very complex process um

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but i wanted to comment um about the the

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vortexes yes

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in in particular uh you said elec

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electrical tornadoes

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it's a metaphor yes a metaphor but it

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might be real i think it's real but

519
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they're all they're often portrayed

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as as uh double vortexes oh i don't know

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about the double okay

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yeah going both directions if you look

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at a lot of

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like astronomical images of uh

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planetary nebulae they call it they'll

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often be

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double rotating vortexes uh and vortexes

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also

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are uh pretty much as far as i can

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determine

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the main way that energy is transduced

532
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throughout the universe whether you're

533
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talking about bose einstein condensates

534
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on the microscopic scale

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where they form spontaneously when you

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reach that critical uh

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temperature all the way up to tornadoes

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you know which we almost had here

539
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yesterday

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to uh cosmological uh processes

541
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i think you guys need to take this

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offline at the end of the talk we have a

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couple of people and i'll make sure that

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you get your card okay good okay yeah

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yes in fact the vortices kind of remind

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me a lot of things

547
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anyway i would like to ask if

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given the more than the one plus one

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effect by the healers in the previous

550
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talk with regard to the subtle bodies

551
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or your holographic body idea

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had you considered is anybody

553
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experimenting with as a corollary to

554
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remote viewing teams

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uh doing for instance the mars work

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looking for for instance on a re-entry

557
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vehicle a team of people looking

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at the condition of the vehicle

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and then attempting to heal any wounds

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on the surface of the vehicle

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i'm not aware already perceived say

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precognition cognitive thing in an

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attempt to intervene

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other than what we could do ourselves if

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it has to do with something we need to

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do to get out of harm's way

567
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so i'm not aware of anything like that

568
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but it sounds like a parallel to healing

569
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east indian mysticism identifies a

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dynamic between the kundalini energy and

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the chakras

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where the the chakra is unknown to a lot

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of people who try to study this that the

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chakras are actually blocked

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energy vortices that are not flowing up

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and down the spine for the

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supposedly normal state have you seen

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any of that dynamic in your work

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yes i have worked worked with people

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that come to me uh

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for a number of reasons and they do run

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into what i can

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in this model see resistances whether it

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be what's called the heart chakra

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or some other area that then through a

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little bit of a therapy

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can be circumvented or balanced or

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blocked unblocked

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so there is that concept and okay you do

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see uh energy

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stuck in a chakra that then is allowed

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to slow yeah i don't know whether it's a

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metaphor

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or real but there is something that

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represents a blockage of resistance or

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something that we're out of balance in

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very much the jungian psychology how do

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we

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receive or go back to a balanced

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situation you know we

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do too much of one thing another enough

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another and so it's something

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like that where i see it a balancing

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process